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Lady Lostris
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Minnichi
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• 4/6/2013

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I'm going to try to rewrite Conversion this weekend and I was also thinking about posting Eris's character page on the AW (modified to cater the changes of course) as now we have a kickass image for her thanks to Minn (again, I totally love her hair :-p) and no one knows her from any fanon for obvious reasons. However, that would mean that there are some slight "spoilers" in regards to her background, though does anyone mind? If so, then I'll simply not post it, she doesn't need to have the page now as I'm quite sure I can introduce her properly without it (though it might lengthen the chapters, I seem to have the habit of writing long ones ^^")

Anyway, what the actual point of this message was: does Eris's father have a name? Okay, of course he has a name, but what is it? Have we options or just not a clue at all? And from what nation is he originally? Might help with the naiming.

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Lady Lostris
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• 4/6/2013

I like Kin as a name :) I purposely made Eris's eyes more bright/golden than the usual FN color because they're supposed to stand out, and parents may have naturally named her father Kin for that unique quality. And the connection to the eyes is just very cool :P How are you planning to portray his personality, on that note? I know this is all for later but just curious to see how his appearances will be incorporated into the fanon. 

And yeah, I'd simplify the background a bit before posting her character page on the AW. Maybe you can make the part about the Avatar feeling guilty for his actions less obvious, and just imply it by saying that "all she knew was that he turned away every time he looked at her, and she concluded that it was out of hate." Just a more mysterious vibe, perhaps. 

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• 4/6/2013

It doesn't really matter which nation he comes from. I just have a love for fire, thus I am naturally more prone to taking someone from that nation ^^".

I haven't really worked out the Avatar's personality, though I would say that it feels natural to give him a caring personality (to make the entire Eris/Kin relationship even more complicated and screwed up ^^). He first cared deeply for his family, though after that broke, he cared deeply for the world as his new family, thus being perceived as a very good Avatar who would do anything for the people. Since he wouldn't admit his shame over his outburst, he is also a naturally proud man.

Well, I'll first try to rewrite the prologue and the first chapter to incorporate her and then I'll see how much of her background I have already given away. Her name original will likely have been mentioned, just as the death of her brothers, but to what degree I don't know yet.

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• 4/8/2013

Kudos for complicated and screwed up relationships. Somehow, they make for a more fulfilling read (if done right).

I do like the name Kin for the Avatar, and I also think making him Fire Nation is fine. Unless you want to do something really weird, and use a fifth nation in their universe... *head spins*

On the thought of a character page, I don't know that it's necessary, since none of the others do. But then, I'm not a fan of profiles because they usually contain spoilers. *shrug* I abhor spoilers.

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• 4/8/2013

I think a character page might be needed just because Eris has no reference fanons like the other characters. There's just no way to cover that Eris once had a happy past with her family from the Vortex fanon alone; the heroes would just know that her father regrets something about her. Going into "flashback" details from the fanon might feel out of place or drag, if you ask me, so a character page with some of those extra details that usually come from the character's "home" fanon might help readers. Idk 

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• 4/8/2013

Hmm, interesting point. Still, there are other ways to convey Eris' past than flashbacks, like the team meeting up with her father at some point or going to her home world -which is already in the plot so they can find the fourth grave with the doll- to hear stories, etc. Also, if Shirou is still going to ally with her at some point, he might pick up on some things. I'm of the opinion that any information pertinent to the story should actually be *in* the story, so I would much prefer finding a way to work Eris' past in that way, rather than using a profile to do it. That's my two cents. ;)

Speaking of Shirou, is he still going to ally with the enemy, now Eris?

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• 4/8/2013

Is Black Monkey still active? That is, for the moment, a better question.

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• 4/8/2013

Hey, here is a screwed up idea to get the readers to know her past: what if a vortex would lead to Eris's past when she was still happy? The group would just not know that at that point the little happy girl they were seeing with her family was Eris. We could just add some details about the happy life there and then the group (and the readers) would figure out later when they tag along with Eris to her world that they have been there before.

But good question about BM: now would be the perfect time to figure that out as it would be no problem writing Shirou out at this point since we are rewriting anyway ^^.

General update, I've written around the 1400 words extra for the prologue (and I'm not done yet). Sorry, I'm just prone for detailed writing that thus elongates the chapters ^^".

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• 4/8/2013

I love that idea! If you wanted, you could even have the gang ask Avatar Kin if he knows anyway to create a 'vortex' and how they might stop them permanently (or something) which could actually give Sakura the initial idea when she becomes Eris. But that might be too paradox-y.

Whoo! Hurrah for long chapters! ^_^

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• 4/8/2013

Hahaha, that would really be screwed up, but in a kind of nice way ^^. I wouldn't rule that paradox idea out just yet, though the only mess I predict with that is that it would be hard to explain it all ^^".

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• 4/8/2013

Very true. *strokes imaginary mustache* But we'll keep it on the table. ;)

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