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Lady Lostris
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Mageddon725
• 9/15/2013

Energybending

Okay, Wordbender brought up a decent point about Eris' energybending. In her chapter, Eris temporarily loses her ability to energybend due to being in a new place, but I have Eris using her abilities right after stepping through the portal into Ling's world. My theory was this: Because Ursa knocked them through a portal that Eris had no direct control over, she needs time to get accustomed to the odd energy of the new world. Thoughts?

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Lady Lostris
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• 12/9/2013

I was just heading out when I saw this: well, I haven't thought about that yet, but letting her meet a lion turtle and get it from the creature could be cool. Perhaps we could have a chapter -perhaps the next one that takes everyone back in Eris' past- that details how a young Eris stumbles across a lion turtle and somehow received energybending from it -perhaps by saving the creature (or another one) somehow without her firebending and then the lion turtle could ask why she refused to bend?

If we go with the "she got it from a lion turtle" option, we leave ourselves with the easy option for later if we ever need it to have the team meet the turtle and let the creature explain some stuff ^^".

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• 12/9/2013

It would be nice to have that option, and pretty cool to have a lion turtle. It could be interesting to show Eris actually *saving* someone, too, even if it's technically before Eris. I wonder if receiving energybending could have led to her decisions to exact vengeance on her father.

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• 12/9/2013

I like that idea. :) Sorry I wasn't at the meeting, btw. I had dinner with the family before going to pick up a Christmas tree.

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• 12/9/2013

Perhaps since she would've received the ability of energybending at a time where she was consumed with anger and grief and whatever negative emotion you want to give her at that moment, the power corrupted her soul -not like in Aang's case, obviously, as she still has some good, but more... I don't know, turned her darker. Just a random thought.

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• 12/9/2013

Yeah, the opportunity such a skill provided could have compelled her to act on the hurt and anger she felt. Which begs the question -what the heck was that lion turtle thinking? Another possible story addition.

And a second question -you mention she still has some good inside. When and how do you think we might see this manifesting? I ask because as of yet in the story, we have indications that *something* horrible drove her to become Eris, but no sign of any 'good' left in her. She mostly just attacks people.

It's cool, Mage; this was the only thing I had to discuss, and the forums are working great for it. ;)

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• 12/9/2013

Meh, irrelevant, the lion turtles gave the power to everyone as shown in Wan's time. Perhaps Sakura/Eris saved the turtle from a hunter that threatened to kill it and out of gratitude, the turtle gave her the ability to energybend.

Hmm, when it comes to Eris, I would say that the traditional labels of "good" and "bad" don't really apply. There's more to her than just that. She's angry, well, more like downright pissed off and more of the "wrath-and-vengeance" type over forgiveness, but she is not inherently evil. Although she revels in her power, she does not hurt people without reason -as in, she will not randomly go out and start to torment people. If people get in her way, well, tough luck for those people, but then she has a reason to do what she did (even if that reason is morally not up to snuff). She will never be a "good" character in the traditional sense of the word. There will be glimpses for the reader that show that she is not inherently bad and perhaps she might do something good here and there, but she'll likely not do that to help the other first but rather serve herself (and the fact that the other is helped too, that's nice). Or if anything, that's how she would spin it anyway.

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• 12/10/2013

Not necessarily irrelevant, because lion turtles didn't bestow two sets of bending on any person, except Wan, and he had to go around proving himself and mastering each art. Plus, he had Raava to put in a good word. If Sakura saves him (it?) from a hunter or band of hunters, that could be enough to persuade it to giver her energybending, but the infrequency of the event should be addressed.

There's also the part about needing a strong and un-bendable will to avoid corruption of spirit when energybending, which could be interesting to use. Maybe as a defense for our heroes?

As for Eris being in the gray area, that I understand. What I meant is that the reader doesn't see it yet. She tried to kill the Avatar, she's been attacking our heroes and hunting them down, and she sent Wan Shi Tong packing. Right now, she basically looks evil. I was wondering if we had any ideas on how and when the reader might start glimpsing the 'not so bad' parts.

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• 12/10/2013

Perhaps the turtle didn't know she could bend? Since she wouldn't have used her firebending. Or indeed just the saving the turtle.

Defense for the heroes how? They can't defend themselves against energybending. The unbendable will is needed when you wield the power yourself. So unless they all want to become energybenders themselves, their willpower seems irrelevant as a defense.

I though to just gradually show that through the explanations for why she does what she does. She doesn't need to do any "good" acts, cause that would be out of character for her. It would be more like Azula saving Sokka in the Forgetful Forest: even though she did something good, she did so for her personal gain. And we could also emphasize that she doesn't strike down random people etc.

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• 12/18/2013

You're right; for some reason I was thinking someone with a strong will could use that to battle Eris's energybending, more like a contest of wills. But that's not the way it works, is it?

No, I wouldn't have her do anything out of character, just a little something so the reader might start sympathizing with her. Not attacking someone just to attack them would be a good start. So far, after all, everyone she's encountered has been standing in her way, so she's attacked them.

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• 12/18/2013

As far as I know of, no, it doesn't work like that, as I would think that Ozai or Yakone would be pretty strong-willed too (as a strong will does not need to be a pure will), though they still succumbed to Aang's energybending.

I would just gradually reveal that she has had somewhat of a tragic past, so that it could be understood that she just sort of gave up hope for the world and only cared for herself anymore as that was easier and less painful.

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